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Why does every region in Aotearoa spend money maintaining its own bus timetable website, apps etc? Wouldn't it make more sense to have one site that provides timetables and other public transport info for the whole country, publishing open data feeds that can be picked up and displayed by any public transport apps?

@strypey "how much to centralize in a large org" is a fascinating question.

In theory, indeed centralizing would save a lot of cost and effort. However, what if you pick the wrong thing? I see many organizations having to use shitty products "because HQ mandates it", that are expensive (and nigh impossible to migrate away from) to boot.

It feels like the truth must be somewhere in the middle: allowing subsidiaries to share tools but not requiring them to, and using standards.

@strypey
If you own a website you can a) monetize it, b) self-promote shamelessly, and c) kill any scuttlebutt you don't like on it.

@strypey It was only a couple of days ago I thought basically the same! If not a single website, then at least a single web application that has the same functionality wherever you are.
Christchurch and Timaru do this on a small scale. metroinfo.co.nz/

@strypey TBH I'm kind of ok with that as it prevents a monoculture...
For sure lets agree on a standard interoperable API but from an employment/innovation/growth perspective the more players in the game the better. Keeps development and coding in country rather than sending public funds overseas to some faceless US multinational.

@carl_klitscher
> Keeps development and coding in country rather than sending public funds overseas to some faceless US multinational.

Does it though? Just to clarify, I'm talking about one public transport info website for Aotearoa, not a single one for the whole world. A global site could be built by pulling in the timetable feeds etc from each country's site. Mind you, I guess a countrywide site could be built the same way, presuming each region is publishing such data feeds.

@carl_klitscher @strypey AFAICS many (all?) of the NZ bus systems provide real time route data that can be used by 3rd parties. See e.g. transitapp.com/ most likely in google transit format developers.google.com/transit/

@bigblen @carl_klitscher @strypey Looks like GTFS is an open standard, which is how these things should be handled. Diverse info sources, common open standards.

@carl_klitscher @strypey funny you should mention that... I wrote up another unfortunate inefficiency in our various pub trans system here: openstandards.nz See the section on bus ticketing systems...

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