"Hopelessness isn’t natural. It needs to be produced. If we really want to understand this situation, we have to begin by understanding that the last thirty years have seen the construction of a vast bureaucratic apparatus for the creation and maintenance of hopelessness, a kind of giant machine that is designed, first and foremost, to destroy any sense of possible alternative futures."

"Whenever a genuinely democratic movement begins to emerge — particularly, one based on principles of civil disobedience and direct action — the reaction is the same; the government makes immediate concessions (fine, you can have voting rights; no nukes), then starts ratcheting up military tensions abroad. The movement is then forced to transform itself into an anti-war movement; which, pretty much invariably, is far less democratically organized."

I remember noticing exactly this in the 2000s.

"Communism then is already here. The question is how to further democratize it. Capitalism, in turn, is just one possible way of managing communism — and, it has become increasingly clear, rather a disastrous one. Clearly we need to be thinking about a better one: preferably, one that does not quite so systematically set us all at each others’ throats."

Yes. Which emerges when #politicalParties cannot overwhelms the #democraticProcess. A good start might be a selection process for a #Senate called #sortition. ;)

@dsfgs where you said "political parties", I think you meant corporations, and the investor class that collectively owns and profits from them? IE the capitalists?

@dsfgs are you familiar with the book 'Markets not Capitalism' and c4ss.org?

May take a look at those.

What is really concerning to us is how #cronyism (#lobbying, #politicalDonations, #bribery) is distorting how #democracy and #capitalism are supposed to compete with each other in a balanced way.

The third pillar #DickSmith's FairGo #manifesto is to eliminate political donations from the democratic process, with strict rules on #electionSpending.

@dsfgs good luck with that ;) Just getting rules on transparency of donations to political parties, and spending on ads intended to influence election outcomes, is an uphill struggle in many countries.

@dsfgs I think Taiwan's hybrid model of elected representatives carrying out policy crowdsourced from the electorate using tools like are well worth considering. Their model seems to balance pros and cons (three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner).

Interesting stuff worth checking out, thanks.

If worried about the 'three wolves and one sheep deciding dinner' #DirectDemocracy problem, then #sortition may be appreciated as a method of selecting part of (or all of) a senate. Its effectively a random selection of people ala a jury but put into a Senate. Solves the aforementioned too.

Its an ancient method that could and probably should be brought back. Note that #ExtinctionRebellion are demanding it as part of their manifesto. :)

Yes, thanks. We're not sure what happened to that sentence. Text may have been accidentally deleted.

Sign in to participate in the conversation
Mastodon - NZOSS

This Mastodon instance is provided gratis by the NZ Open Source Society for the benefit of everyone interested in their own freedom and sharing with others. Hosting is generously provided by Catalyst Cloud right here in Aotearoa New Zealand.