tfw somebody says "sure, electron is bloated, but everything is bloated" -- like, just because a problem is already horrible doesn't make it OK to make it worse\!

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@enkiv2 the obvious response being, everything is bloated because people make lazy excuses for building and using bloated stuff.

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Yup. It's not even a matter of optimization or whatever: it is literally easier not to use electron, from a dev POV, & the same is true of a lot of these sources of bloat.

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