A shame that the Discourse forum seems to require a GH account :/ (unless that's just a bug). In fact it's a shame that they're still using GH at all, when self-hosting using a code forge platform like #GitLab is an option. Hopefully that's in the pipeline?
@strypey Looks like you can create a new account on their forums if you don't want to log in via GitHub.
@algernon hmm. Neither is working for me. I suspect I'm starting to hit more and more weird issues due to being on a 32-bit OS based off Ubuntu 16.04.
@cowan I haven't studied this in detail, but here are some facts:
1) Reddit has ads. Ads = tracking and data collection.
2) Reddit used to release their server code under a #FreeCode license. Not anymore. I suspect because of the move to ads
I agree there are some issues with PTIO's current approach to endorsements, but let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good. Although it can take persistence to overcome some core members' confirmation bias at times, PTIO's endorsements do change in response to new information (eg removing Wire endorsement after they set up a US branch company to accept VC). Instead of condemning it, how about continuing to work at improving it?
Hi there 👋
let me start by saying that @privacytools is one of my sources and we recommend them:
Second, I think we shouldn't scare each other *away from* things. Like @strypey implied: Guiding us *towards* sites/software and improving these seems better 🙂
Let's do our best to improve things :)
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo #AWS is a bad procurement choice, but it's just commodity hosting, not a software dependency. If you dig a bit you'll find that most of the fediverse is ultimately hosted on AWS, as are #Signal, #Wire, and if I remember rightly, #Matrix.org. I'm pretty sure this isn't the worst thing about any given service, Reddit included.
@jcgruenhage If people engineer their service in ways that make it hard to move off AWS, that's a different issue. But AWS can be used just like any other remote hosting vendor, in such a way that servers can be easily moved elsewhere. The #OERu folks have been using it that way for some of their services:
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo I share all these concerns about Amazon (see my comments on the linked page). My point is that being hosted on AWS is a fairly easy problem to solve. Step 1: move your servers to a more ethical hosting provider, like the #CatalystCloud service mentioned at that linked page. Done.
> an ethical user does not use Reddit.
That's like saying an ethical user doesn't use computers, because all hardware manufacturers buy from companies who trade in conflict minerals. It's absurd to hold users responsible for procurement choices they don't control. These issues:
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @jcgruenhage @cowan
Do you know where activism.openworlds.info is hosted? Do you know which datacentres the server(s) are housed in? Do you know who supplies their bandwidth, or their electricity? Who handles their security, or their insurance? Do you know where the domain is registered? Do you know which parent companies owns all those companies, and who owns those parent companies? Are you responsible for all their ethical violations because you use that instance?
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo thanks for the nuanced reply. As you acknowledge, it's more complex than 'an ethical user does not use X'. We all choose our compromises, in situations of limited information, limited freedom of action, and limited power to influence larger institutional arrangements. One useful question to ask is; which compromises are ruinous?
#Lemmy is one of a number of federated Reddit-a-like projects. See the 'Link-sharing, Forum, and Group Apps' category here:
We checked them again recently, for possible inclusion on the front page of fediverse.party, but none are production-ready yet.
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