Today I found videos of the presentations from 'Sowing the Seeds', the 2018 conference in . Here's the playlist for day 1:
invidio.us/playlist?list=PLLwj

Day 1 of Sowing the Seeds started off with a big picture overview by Michel Bauwens of the , and sociologist scholar and labour activist Professor Pun Ngai from the University of Hong Kong. She set out to place the movement in the context of the Chinese socialist revolution, and I'm looking forward to rewatch this video and try to understand more deeply what she was arguing:
invidio.us/watch?v=gFTfdfg000Q

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@strypey Good to have this thank u. D'you have a link for Michel's recorded talk? I'm having trouble navigating the site - hadn't previously found Pun Ngai's talk.

On a different plane, there are echoes of her theme in this audioslide presentation I did with a Chinese scholar (in a quite different field) earlier this year, trying to figure 'the 3rd radical science movement' - in China? And connect with P2P-commons.
hooktube.com/9yD1sCz3aDU
Some context is sketched here
foprop.org/blog-1/p2pcommons-t

@strypey Yes Pun Ngai needs viewing twice! Says China is incomplete 'commonist' revolution, to be completed. Just so. But seems to still hold to 'the book' of Marx/Lenin/Mao on revolution, withering State (how!), class war. Seems old fashioned & doctrinaire to this post-post-Fordist Western socialist! Pivotally, she describes China as hugely working class (compare middle class West). Thus, strategies might be 'old' ones? Complex resonance here with Western solidarity economy perspective. Mmmnn

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@mike_hales my reaction to Professor Pun's talk was similar, I did wonder if she's trying to work within the acceptable bounds of political history in China. Except that I would characterise the Chinese revolution as an anti-colonial nationalist one, clothed in "socialist" and "communist" rhetoric, which is why it's been able to pivot towards a market capitalist economy so smoothly post-Mao.

@strypey Her holding of Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Tse-Tung Thought does seem odd. But her reminder that China has the largest and most brutally driven working class forces in the the post-Fordist world is probably worth reckoning with! 'Uneven development,' and then some!

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