More disturbingly bad pop psychology misdiagnosis of the "social media" problem ...

> "The mainstream social internet is so big; everyone is connected to everyone, over a billion on Facebook alone. The consequences of connection — fake news, radicalization, massive targeted harassment campaigns, algorithmically-generated psychological torment, inane bullshit — were not part of what we were sold."
theverge.com/2017/12/28/167950

I agree all these things are bad, but they're not new, and they're definitely not "consequences of connection", but the consequences of corporate-owned media, ad-based revenue model, and political bitterness caused by rising inequality. We migrated to the net in the 90s because the same perfect storm had hopelessly warped TV, and we naively thought the net might be different.

All the pearl-clutching and hand-wringing over weird YT kids videos makes we wonder if any of these people ever saw kids TV? I well remember the terrifyingly weird psy-op tactics advertisers used to prime kids to use "pester power", both in the "programs" themselves (remember Transformers and Masters of the Universe toys and their "TV shows") as well as in the ad breaks between them.

The good news is, it's still much cheaper and easier to set up a webserver or any other kind of internet server for ourselves, individually or as a community, than it has ever been to set up a micro-radio ("pirate radio") or micro-TV ("pirate TV") broadcast. I helped set up some micro-radio stations in early 2000s, so I'm speaking from experience here. Plus, servers can do a much greater range of things, and any webserver has much greater potential reach than local radio or TV (cool as they are)

Imagine a federated platform like that replace for distributing podcasts. It would have all the benefits of pirate radio (or ); diverse voices, a plurality of sources, decentralized production and consumption, plus all the benefits of iTunes; any podcaster can potentially heard by anyone in a global audience, and without the downsides of a platform controlled by a single gatekeeper like Apple corporation.

@strypey It would miss one extremely popular feature for creators, accurate analytics.
@moonman @strypey I couldn't put words to my spontaneous reaction when I read this a week ago, but this is pretty much it: https://social.umeahackerspace.se/notice/2277656
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@notclacke @moonman it's anti-social to want one's statements about taking action on climate change to have a greater impact? I think we are missing some larger context to this comment by @mmn

@strypey @mmn @moonman I don't think there's any need to mystify it or exaggerate it. I think it's pretty clear that force multipliers allow those with resources to overpower those without them.

Like almost any weapon, it can be used for good. I still find disarmament attractive and equalizing.

And I think PR is less social than shitposting, perhaps even anti-social, depending on how it's done.
@strypey If the purpose of your statement regarding action on climate change is to reach as many people - or target the "right audience" - it is not social communication. It's propaganda. Regardless of whether you think the content of your preaching is something everyone "just has to know!". I don't think it's beneficial to promote and support this kind of behaviour.

Unless of course y'all think it's a good idea to have a battle of "who thinks they can reach the most", in which case you've reinvented all the social issues over on Facepoop.

cc: @moonman @notclacke

@mmn @moonman @notclacke
> it is not social communication. It's propaganda.

Sure, but you seem to think that's always bad. I think that like any tool or technology, the moral status of a broadcast depends entirely on what you intend to achieve with it, or if you want to take a consequentialist position, what results it has in practice.

@mmn @moonman @notclacke why put anything on the web, ever, if you're not trying to reach an audience outside your existing social circles?

@strypey There's a difference between just trying to reach outside one's social circles and doing analysis of other peoples' behaviour (from which you adapt your communication strategies to maximise profit/outreach).

The !fediverse is open by design so users themselves can find, subscribe etc. interesting content. Sharing whatever content one finds is done via links of trust.
@strypey Statistics and "followers" and "views" etc... Come on. That's pretty shallow, isn't it? I wouldn't want to communicate with someone who just wants to have a discussion to get their ranking up.
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