Earlier this year I hung out in #scuttlebutt for a while . . but there was some glitch - it seems my posts couldn't be seen. Not much fun, being invisible. That's a shame, bcos I think @richdecibels made a good case for using that space, in his New Year blog in Medium.
So here I am, having a go in Mastodon.
@mike_hales that is so sad! sounds like no one was replicating you. Can happen if you follow a pub that didn't follow you back (a bug). If you want to retry, test out some other pubs.
@richdecibels glad to see you here. My hunch is, #mastodon meets my needs better than #scuttlebutt might - the UI is more pleasing, the community perhaps runs in a different way? thanks for the insight, @strypey might follow the tip?
@mike_hales @richdecibels the basic metaphors as I see them: #scuttlebutt = P2P network(s) of self-hosting individuals, #fediverse = federated networks of co-hosting communities *and* self-hostin individuals
I'm trying to use Mastadon as part of organizing a project. See if it works....
(Also using SSB as part of the same project organizing effort. We'll see which works best, or if they are complementary. And of course more media: Telegram, Gitter, etc etc etc...)
@richdecibels @stripey
So far, social.coop, SSB, and telegram are all effective for organizing, but in very different ways. I suspect they have more to do with the people and organizations in residence than the mediums.
In SSB somebody takes off with an idea that is part of the project direction and starts doing it, mostly by themselves, but with occasional help from their friends.
In telegram, groups of people chat a lot and eventually come to agreement on things to do together.
I'm newer to social.coop, but so far, am learning a lot of useful info. More about info sharing than actually doing anything either together or taking off along, so far.
This is apparently like SSB in that you can't edit a comment. "taking off along" shd have been "taking off alone", as in SSB, that's what people tend todo, vs in telegram, they try to agree on something to do together, whereas so far in social.coop, it's been more sharing info. But useful.
@richdecibels @strypey In my short time lurking in scuttlebutt it did seem closer to the lives of folk (DIY) - geeky but also more like chatting in the local street (or indeed, pub). Nice, but perhaps not my community (geekiness), more like an anthropological field trip!
Remains to be seen if this instance of Mastodon has geeks like me! Well, there's you two ;-p
Really have no interest in tribes, of whatever kind. This kept me off all social media these past 10 years.
@mike_hales interesting. I guess on both networks your mileage will vary depending on who you do and don't follow. @richdecibels description of #scuttlebutt sounds exactly like my experience of the #fediverse. I aggressively unfollow people who use it as a megaphone for tribal battle cries (of any kind), and pay little or no attention to the public timelines.
@strypey @mike_hales from my limited perspective I see v different behaviours in the 2 communities. Mastodon feels like little twitter, basically people sharing opinions to confirm tribal affiliations (sorry not sorry). My view on Scuttlebutt is mostly people doing things and sharing their process with other interested parties. Much more DIY atmosphere. Much more geeky and alienating though.