If governments of the world realised (as I've often suggested) that they should be funding critical digital infrastructure, instead of OAuth run by mega corporations, slurping our data with their surveillance capitalism bizmodels, we'd be using Mozilla Persona and our lives would be better for it. Huge opportunity missed. Sadly, by failing to take it, you've thrown further fuel onto the fire currently razing our national and personal sovereignties.

@lightweight The role of governments in how digital technology was developed and adopted has been dramatically deficient in recent times.

Is there maybe a list ranking countries according to how much they have sold their citizens to oligopolies?

@openrisk good question. Would be an interesting list to peruse.

@openrisk although for most governments, I suspect the answer would be "completely".

@lightweight There is always nuance and if one cannot simply and effectively point out what "better looks like" the arguments get lost in the multidimensional complexity of the world.

I am not a nihilist, governments are not by definition captured, they reflect the balance of power in respective constituencies but are also affected by both appearances and realities on the ground. Eg how effectively does #foss show up when there is a tender for digital infrastructure?

@openrisk it seldom does, because the profit margin to fund speculative bids (and butter up procurement officers with 'account management') all belongs to those exploiting local (proprietary software) monopolies. In my (16 years) experience in that game, devs provide much better value & so have less $$ to splash out on speculative (low probability, highly contested) contracts. Making it worse is the fact that gov't contacts want to get the biggest $$ contract possible to pad their CVs.

@openrisk In most cases, people prone to doing dev are too truthful, too. There's a story of a UK local gov't office software tender that MSFT responded to (4 million quid) & a shop offered a functionally equivalent (probably better) option based on LibreOffice & (I think) Alfresco for 60,000 quid. The MSFT bid won.

@openrisk funny how my country, if it appears on maps at all, is usually obscured by the zoom in/out buttons.

@lightweight A murderer is less to be feared.

Surely those involved with what people know as 'government' are showing us precisely what they are and what motivates them... which is advantageous. The hard part is creating a situation of universal awareness to the fact, but this conversation made things a little better in that regard.

The idea of government isn't to make our lives better, though. Too many not very nice people have embedded themselves inside those systems.

@OpenSource I've met a few relevant folks here in NZ. I'm pretty sure the problem is one of institutional culture and general ignorance more than ill intent, but I'm sure there's a bit of that, too. And a fair bit of self-serving, too. Persona was awesome and I'm perpetually disappointed it failed so profoundly.

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