Well said, @aral and thanks for pointing out this (sadly typical) undisclosed vested interest in someone who should be more honourable. Yes, rather than including these country-sized autocratic corporations in our discussions, we *all* need to actively identify their influence in our own spheres and exclude them from discussions... because they're inclusion can only go one way: south (i.e. not in our favour, nor the children's).

@lightweight @aral The problem of being funded by people who oppose your mission seems like a general one. In the past one way to shut up noisy opponents of a particular company - if they couldn't be demobilized in the traditional ways - was to get them onto the payroll. Where paychecks lead, hearts and minds soon follow.

Similarly, projects aiming at decentralization being funded by large centralised and extremely hierarchical state entities is a potential conflict of interest.

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