I really enjoyed this interview: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018815698/doireann-ni-ghriofa-the-story-of-how-we-haunt-each-other Make me realise how lucky we are in NZ to have RNZ and, especially, Kim Hill, to help us gain insights into interesting, thoughtful people doing important things. No dumbing down to be seen. Unapologetically inquisitive and erudite.
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