Gov'ts and civil society cannot afford to be dependent (as they have very foolishly allowed themselves to become, worldwide) on a handful of US multinational tech corporations. The problem isn't FB's action - it's the fact that Gov'ts are up-in-arms about it because they've got all their eggs in the Facebook basket. I pity them their lack of comprehension (I've been warning our gov't about this for 20+ years) and the deleterious effect it has on all of us.
@lightweight even Britain isn't quite as bad; some govt departments and public services do use Birbsite rather too much for shorter real time info (I noticed this when trying to find road safety info during the snow/ice a week ago) but they do at least still all have their own independent websites and keep them updated with longer articles/info publications..
@bob @LovesTha @vfrmedia but they can't reach *all* the people that way, nor can they require it, because FB is technically a user-hostile platform running a foreign jurisdiction, answerable to a sometimes hostile gov't... (US Cloud act, Patriot Act, etc.). As a matter of principle, NZ's democratic processes should *only* be framed by entities beholden to the NZ gov't, and, ideally, not private parties with vested interests.
@bob @LovesTha @vfrmedia the reason we have a democracy is so that people who know how to do things better can, if sufficiently motivated, influence the system. This is an area where we have to both declare the status quo unacceptable, and provide a better alternative (which I think we can and even have done).
Even though it isn't a primary place for government disseminate information it is a primary place many find new information. Cutting them off suddenly isn't good.
Facebook can be more reliable than government services in an emergency, this isn't good, but it is hard to get governments to invest sufficiently in server capacity for those events.
@LovesTha @vfrmedia here in NZ, I'd disagree. The gov't could engage local providers who are every bit as competent as FB... and they have resources *in the NZ jurisdiction* not exclusively outside of it, like FB. If we lose our 4 overseas cables, connecting us to the world, our coms are goneburgers. Not good risk management.
France is. Our canton (not my commune, the administrative commune next door, but we are part of the canton) main info point is on Facebook, as are the department announcements. Although they have separate websites the info isn't as easy to find. Ease of use for updating information now, I suspect is why it's a primary communication means. It's also handy for the audience reach. The people get departmental storm alerts on FB.
@lightweight is it the governments fault that so many citizens use Facebook to gain important information? Ifthey don't put good info on Facebook then those people just get bad info.
@LovesTha I think it's very damning that many gov'ts *only* put some important info out via FB. And I'm not sure all of it's good.
Yeah, and there are extra issues with Privacy and healthcare further out as well. In the more distant clinics, patients photos of their condition ending up on the doctors icloud account as it's easier that way. That's before you get to other privacy breaches. Systems are built badly, and people use what they find easiest. Which is how we got here, with Facebook being critical communications infrastructure 😑
Oh I like that term. Plus we could consider comparing the big five to feudal Lords. Yeah we get stuff for free, but what do we end up giving back? Everything about us. You can expand on that and consider doing comparisons to history. John Wycliffe + Gutenberg started a pull for freedom in terms of dissemination of information with the English translation of the Bible, and Gutenberg printing. Being able to read the bible in your own language really was challenging the status quo.
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